
The Thompson Family (draft)
This section has been contributed by Michael Watkins, who was brought up in Pirbright. We are very grateful to Michael for this detailed study of his relatives.
It deals with the Thompson family who arrived in Pirbright in 1856 and farmed several parts of Pirbright, including Wickhams Farm. We don't think that there are any members of the family with the name Thompson still living in Pirbright, although some descendants of the original Thompson family are still involved in Pirbright life in one way or another. The section is organized as follows:
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Richard Thompson
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Richard's children:
- William’s children
- Jane
- William Luff
- Lucy Thompson (nee Luff)
- Mary
- Richard
- John
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Conclusions
Richard Thompson (1805 – 1887)
Richard is the first Thompson known to have lived in Pirbright. His origin can be traced back to his grandfather, Peter Tomson, who lived in Aldershot, Hampshire. (The name was spelt Tomson in the 1770s, added “p” by 1800 and an “h” by 1820). Peter was either born in Odiham, (about 8 miles from Aldershot) or Farnham (about 3 miles away). The Peter in Odiham was born in 1725 (when both he and his father spelt their name Peetar). The Peter in Farnham was the father of a
Peter born in 1759, but his own birth is not recorded. Either could have moved to Aldershot in about 1760, been married to a woman named Elizabeth and then had 6 children between 1764 and 1774, including Thomas (1766) and James (1771). Peter was buried there in 1786 and Elizabeth in 1797.
In those days, a century before Aldershot became the home of the British army, it was a small farming community surrounded by heathland. Peter’s position in society is not known but he probably worked on the land, like his sons, and may have rented some land himself. His son James, moved as a young man to Tongham about 2 miles away, just over the county boundary in Surrey while his brother, Thomas, moved to Ash, a further mile away. Tongham was a hamlet within Seale parish, but it had been a manor, by 1800 known as Poyle House. In 1793 James married a local woman, Ann Harris in St Laurence, Seale and their 8 children were all baptised in the same church. At the later baptisms, where occupation begins to be recorded, James is described as a labourer. James’s younger sister Ann, had been a witness at the marriage.
James and Ann’s children, including Richard, were brought up in a cottage on the Street, which was later redeveloped as Manor House Flats. But in 1818 James bought some land with a cottage and garden attached, now known as Makepeace Cottage in Poyle Road. This smallholding would not have provided an income sufficient to support a large family and James, together with his sons William, George, Richard, Stephen and Charles would have worked on the neighbouring farms in Tongham and Ash. This would have included Poyle House but also, possibly, the farm in Ash owned by Thomas. But the smallholding would have been large enough to run some livestock and give the boys good experience of managing a farm.
In 1824, William, the eldest son, died to be followed by James in 1838. In his will James left everything to his wife, Ann, but on her death the cottage, land, livestock and other effects were to be sold and the money divided between his children or - if any had died - their children. As it happened they had not and in 1841 Ann was living in the cottage alone, except for William’s son John. All James’s sons had left Poyle, except Stephen, who had his own home and family but probably helped his mother with the smallholding. Ann died in 1854 so in the following year the children would have received their inheritance.
Richard was born in April 1805, the third of James and Ann’s sons. His elder brother, George, married a farmer’s daughter from Ash and by 1851 the couple had their own farm of 70 acres in Windlesham. But Richard chose a different route. By December 1831, when aged 26, he was married in Marylebone, London to Elizabeth Bateman who had been born in Selby, Yorkshire. A few months earlier, in July, Richard’s younger brother, Charles, was married to her sister, Sarah,
also from Selby. The brothers may have both gone to London to work or been in the army, but the sequence suggests that Charles was the one in London and Richard only met his future wife through his sister-in-law. Richard was not a witness at Charles’s marriage although Charles witnessed his. Charles also seemed to have made connections in London as by 1841 he had returned there after a brief career as a publican in Farnham. He later became an excise officer and
moved to the Midlands and later Cheshire.
Richard also returned to Surrey and when his first child (Sarah) was born in 1833 he was also working as a publican. This was at the Greyhound, at the time the only pub in Ash. The Greyhound had been bought in 1807 by Thomas Thompson, Richard’s uncle. He also owned a small farm opposite the Greyhound and combined the two businesses. He grew hops on the farm and built a hopkiln and brewhouse at the Greyhound. His own home, (now Ash Church Mews)
included a malthouse.
He died in 1823, left everything to his wife, but arranged that when she died - which was in 1826 - his pub and brewing business was inherited by his son Thomas (1803-77) and his house by his eldest son John (1800-42). His other 2 sons, Frederic (1808) and George (1819) were left money and land in their parents’ wills. Both left the village when they reached 21 and put their inheritance to good use elsewhere. Frederic married the daughter of a wealthy Chobham farmer in 1832 and set up as a butcher in Windlesham. When his first wife died in 1842 he married again in 1845, this time to a wealthy Guernsey family and he was living and working there in 1851. However, in middle age he chose to become an innkeeper, moved to Reading and died there in 1860. George was established as a farmer in Wonersh by the age of 22, later moving to a large farm in Worplesdon, where he became an auctioneer as well. He died in 1869. Both brothers were buried in Ash, where their gravestones are still visible.
Thomas and John continued to run the farm and brewing business in Ash but as Thomas and his wife, Lucy were childless and John never married, they needed help. So cousin Richard was an ideal choice to manage the pub, as he could help Thomas on the farm as well. Richard stayed at the Greyhound for several years as his next 2 children, William (1835) and Lucy (1837) were also baptised there when he was a publican. When Lucy died in October 1838 he was still living in Ash.
But by February 1840, when Albert was born and baptised, he had taken on the tenancy of a small farm - just 21 acres - at Willey Green, Worplesdon. This was Old House Farm, Bailes Lane and Richard was said to be living there in several of the baptism records of Jane (1842), Charles (1845), Richard (1848), Mary (1851) and John (1853). Willey Green is in the far west of Worplesdon, as was Wyke where some of Richard and Elizabeth’s children were baptised, but both were added to
Ash in 1890. Later the parish of Normandy was created where both hamlets can now be found. Willey Green is about a mile south of Henley Park.
During the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries Henry Halsey and his son purchased land in Worplesdon and Pirbright. In fact, in 1773 Henry purchased the manor of Pirbright and all its lands. In 1788 Henry had purchased Bailes Farm, which lay across the lane from Old House Farm but in the late 1830s when the trustees of the owner, who had died in 1821, decided to sell Old House Farm, Henry’s son was either not interested or outbid. The new owner was Alexander Robertson and Richard Thompson became his first tenant in 1839 or 1840. By then the holding may have been a bit run down after so long in trust.
Richard may have been known to Henry Halsey 2 (HH2), who took over management of the Halsey estates in 1822 when he became of age and took up residence at Henley Park. Henley Park is less than 3 miles from Ash and some contact with nearby publicans must have been inevitable, if only by the staff. Alternatively, Richard may have gained a good reputation as a farmer and when HH2 needed a new tenant for one of his farms in Pirbright, either he chose Richard Thompson or Richard asked to be considered. Certainly there seemed to have been more than a commercial landlord and tenant relationship between the 2 men. HH2 provided
homes, employment and farm tenancies to Richard and his sons until he died in 1887.
Richard’s new home was Rails Farm - at 70 acres much bigger than Old House Farm - but in other ways less attractive. The area was often referred to as Peat Moor, and the going would have been much harder than at Worplesdon. Although a very old farm in the 1500s it was described as “60 acres, parcel of the demesne of the manor, which lies waste to the use of the does in the forest and thus is worth, yearly - nothing”. To this day Rails Farm is surrounded by woodland which isolates it from the rest of Pirbright. We have shown a photo of Rails Farm, taken in the 1920s, below.

The move was probably in 1856 as a different occupier is recorded at Old House Farm in 1857. The previous year Richard would have received his share of his parents’ legacy and the capital would have been welcome. It had possibly influenced his decision to move. In 1861 Richard had 2 labourers to help him who lived in the cottages next door to the farmhouse. Albert and Richard were also available and Mary and John were old enough for small tasks like feeding the hens. But Jane, William and Charles had all left home. William was a page for a gentleman farmer in Flexford, near Willey Green and Charles was an apprentice wheelwright in Wood Street, Worplesdon. Sarah had died in 1843 and Jane was a servant in London, though she returned to be married in Pirbright in 1865.
In 1871 Richard was still farming at Rails Farm, now with the help of 3 men but no doubt aided by his sons Charles (now a wheelwright) and Richard a carpenter. John and Mary were still at home but now Albert, like William, had been found employment elsewhere. In 1881, now nearly 80, Richard was still running Rails Farm with his wife, son John and his grandson Michael (8) who was Mary’s child. However, in the cottage next door he now had his carpenter son, Richard, who lived there with his wife and young family. that year, in August 1881, Elizabeth died and was buried in Pirbright churchyard. In November 1887 Richard joined her, age 84. We have shown a picture of Richard’s handsome turned chair, right.

After Richard died, Rails Farm stayed in the family for about 10 years. It passed to James Martin, who, like Richard 50 years earlier, was working his way up from being an agricultural labourer to a tenant farmer. He was helping his father at Whites Farm in 1881 and after Rails moved to Manor Farm. About 6 months before Richard died James had married Alice Thompson in Pirbright.
Alice was the daughter of Richard’s nephew, John, who had been living with Richard’s mother in 1841 and later moved to Aldershot. The tenancy would of course have been held from the Halsey Estate, but it almost looks as though the new tenant had been chosen by the old one. James’s marriage into the Thompson family was not the last by a Martin. In 1895 his brother, Henry married Sarah Thompson of Wickhams, who was Richard’s granddaughter. But that is explained
in the section dealing with Albert Thompson and family.
Richard Thompson’s Children
Richard and Elizabeth had 9 children between 1833 and 1854. Two of them Lucy and Sarah died as children and, of the other 7, only four lived out their lives in Pirbright. But they and their descendants formed an important part of the social capital of the village for the next 150 years. Today these descendants can be found in many parts of the UK and elsewhere: but none now live in Pirbright. The 3 who had most impact on the village were William, Albert and Charles and they have their own pen portraits. The lives of the other 4 are described below.
William (1835 - 1885)
We have devoted a separate section to William Thompson and his family, which can be seen by clicking on this William Thompson link.
Jane (1842 - 1935)
Jane was Richard and Elizabeth’s eldest surviving daughter. However she may never have lived at Rails Farm and been available to help her parents. By 1861, when 19, she was a servant at Dartmouth House in Lambeth, London. Young women often started such work as young as 13 in those days so she may have been a servant for several years. However she returned to Pirbright in 1865 to be married to Benjamin Cordery and brothers William and Charles were witnesses.
Benjamin, age 26, had been a gunner in the Navy in 1861 but by 1865 was working as a gardener in Chislehurst with his father. But this was probably only a temporary job as by 1871 he was a police constable in Lympne, near Ashford, Kent. The couple had 2 children, both born there, the first in late 1868. Benjamin had progressed to police sergeant by 1881 but then retired to work for the local authority. He died in 1902. Jane had never been recorded in employment, no doubt
because she had 8 children to look after. After her husband died, she went to live with her youngest son, Frederick, in Willesborough, now a suburb of Ashford, and neither she nor any of her children seemed to have had any further contact with Pirbright. Jane died in Willesborough in 1935.
Charles (1845 – 1919)
We have devoted a separate section to Charles Thompson and his family, which can be seen by clicking on this Charles Thompson link.
Mary (1850 – 1884)
Mary was born June 1850 and she lived with her parents at Rails Farm (LINK) until she was 20 when she married James Collyer (1841) a Pirbright man, in February 1871. Their children, Michael (1872), Marion (1874), Lucy (1876) and Kate (1879) were all born in Pirbright, but their address is not known. In about 1880 the family moved to Stone, near Dartford,Kent, so not far from her sister Jane, though this probably was not the reason. James remained a labourer so the move seemed
unconnected with any work. Except the eldest child, Michael Collyer, aged 8, who in 1881 was living with his grandfather at Rails Farm - suggesting some sort of family disagreement, as it would be unlikely that the boy would have had a say in the matter. Michael had to move again when his grandfather died in 1887 and he went to live with his aunt on Pirbright Green and worked as a gardener. He married Mary Kite in 1897 and they later moved to Aldershot where they had 2
children and Michael continued to work as a gardener for a local firm. Mary and James had 2 more children, Albert (1881) and Wilfrid (1883) but none of the children ever moved near to Pirbright in later life. Mary, died in 1884 in Stone, aged only 34.

Richard (1847 – 1882)
Richard (born 1847) lived with his parents first at Bails and then at Rails Farm (LINK) until he married Hannah Campbell who came from Ayrshire and was the daughter of a spirit merchant. In 1874 Richard and his younger brother Charles were involved in a road accident (see cutting, left). It doesn’t sound as though anyone was hurt, and the story does seem to have an amusing edge to it. Later Richard and Hannah married in Bromley St Leonards (now part of Tower Hamlets) in February 1875, when both were said to be residents of the parish and Richard was a joiner. However the couple soon moved back to Pirbright as their first child, Margaret was born there in 1877.
Probably with the help of HH2 they were able to move into Rails Cottage next to Richard’s father’s farm. Richard worked as a carpenter, probably helped out on the farm and the couple had 3 children - Margaret, Richard (1878) and Elizabeth (1880) though there were also twins - John and James (July 1879) but they both died just 2 days old. Then in December 1882 Richard, aged only 35, also died. This was the year that Britain experienced a smallpox epidemic. Emily Alice, his brother’s daughter, also died this year and it is possible they were both victims of this disease. Hannah did not stay in Pirbright, or not for long, as by 1891 she had returned to Scotland and was a housekeeper in Glasgow. The 3 children went with her and never, as far as is known, returned to the village.
John (1853 – 1922)
John (born 1853), the youngest and last to be born in Worplesdon, lived and worked with his father at Rails Farm, probably until Richard died in 1887. However by 1891 he was married - to Annie, born 1858 in Kings Lynn - and was living in Westwood, Wyke part of Ash and only 4 miles from Rails Farm, but still working as a farm labourer. They continued there until at least 1911 but had no children. By 1921 the couple had moved to Normandy, where John worked on a nursery as a market gardener. He died the following year and is buried in Pirbright churchyard. Annie died in 1930.
Conclusions
No one, even when I was a boy, could remember Richard Thompson. There are no photos of him, his wife or his children. His gravestone has disappeared. What kind of farmer, neighbour, husband and father was he? We will never know. But maybe the details above give some clues. Clearly as a young man he was ambitious, possibly going to London to find work. But later settling for life close to his family, but determined to work up to farmer status. He did this in 2 stages, but
each time he moved no further from Ash and Tongham than a few miles. From both Willey Green and Rails Farm it was no more than an hour’s walk to Ash, the latter along the old coach road which passed right by the farm. So this desire to be near family looks deliberate, though what contact he regularly made is unknown.
He and Elizabeth must have relied on the children to help on their farms in the early years. But at Rails there were paid labourers, so in their mid-teens the boys were all sent elsewhere to work and learn a trade. Except the youngest, John who stayed until the end. The 4 older boys all made their lives in Pirbright, apparently inheriting their father’s preference to be near family. By contrast, one daughter went away to work and live, and the other stayed until she married but both had moved a long way from Pirbright before Richard died. So it seems as though Richard bonded better with his sons. Richard’s last link with his family was posthumous when his brother’s granddaughter moved into Rails Farm with her husband of 6 months, now the new tenant. It’s hard not to believe that Richard had been involved before he died.
